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jerryeveretts
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: What can you install Tiger from? |
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| If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? |
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ZnU
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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In article <1183775756.778139.321330@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote:
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| If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? |
Hook the machine up to another Mac (with a DVD drive) in target disk mode, and install from there. I think the other Mac has to be the same processor architecture (PPC or Intel), but other than that OS X installs are universal so the fact that you're installing on different hardware won't matter. |
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Jolly Roger
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> said:
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| If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? |
Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive. |
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jerryeveretts
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> wrote:
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On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> said:
> If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD?
Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive.
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JR |
Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel  |
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ZnU
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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In article <1183784221.824816.199510@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> > said:
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> > If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on > > DVD?
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> Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and > you have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive. >
> -- JR
Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel |
I believe when you put a machine in FW target disk mode, you actually get access to all of its drives. Try putting the Tiger DVD in the machine you're not installing on, and then rebooting *it* in FW target disk mode, hooked up to the machine you want to install on. You should see both the other machine's internal hard drive *and* the Tiger DVD, and then be able to select the Tiger DVD as your boot volume. If you do things this way, it shouldn't matter that the other machine is the wrong processor architecture, since you're basically just using it as an external DVD drive.
I haven't actually tried this, though. |
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Timberwoof
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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In article <1183784221.824816.199510@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> said: >
> > If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? >
> Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you > have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive. >
> --
> JR
Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel |
No problem. Stick the DVD in the one with the DVD drive and start it in Target Disk Mode. Then set the other one's boot disk to be the DVD. |
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Mitch
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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In article <1183784221.824816.199510@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> said: >
> > If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? >
> Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you > have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive. >
> --
> JR
Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel |
Doesn't make any difference.
In target disc mode, the second machine is just running like an external drive, and will behave only that way.
The installer program selects the proper code base to install based on whichever processor is running it; you won't even have to tell it.
Just so we're clear:
connect FireWire
startup main computer
turn on external with DVD, hold down t key (until the FW logo appears) hold down c on main computer; it will look for the optical drive with a system on it. |
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Elijah Baley
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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In article <1183784221.824816.199510@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> said: >
> > If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? >
> Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you > have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive. >
> --
> JR
Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel |
Ah, people, you are forgetting something basic here. The retail Tiger DVD will NOT boot on an Intel based Mac. There is NO Tiger install DVD for Intel based Macs other than the the restore disks that come with each new machine and those will only install on the machine model they were shipped with.
Assuming for the moment we are dealing with a LEGAL copy of the Tiger install DVD Apple has an exchange program available to trade the DVD in for multiple CDs so people without a DVD drive can install Tiger. But that's only for PPC machines. The first retail installer for Intel machines will be for Leopard. |
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jerryeveretts
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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On Jul 7, 10:43 am, Elijah Baley <l...@foundation.org> wrote:
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In article <1183784221.824816.199...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> > wrote:
> > On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> said:
> > > If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD?
> > Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you > > have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive.
> > --
> > JR
> Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel
Ah, people, you are forgetting something basic here. The retail Tiger DVD will NOT boot on an Intel based Mac. There is NO Tiger install DVD for Intel based Macs other than the the restore disks that come with each new machine and those will only install on the machine model they were shipped with.
Assuming for the moment we are dealing with a LEGAL copy of the Tiger install DVD Apple has an exchange program available to trade the DVD in for multiple CDs so people without a DVD drive can install Tiger. But that's only for PPC machines. The first retail installer for Intel machines will be for Leopard.
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"Momma always said, "Stupid is as stupid does."" -Forest Gump
"You can't fix stupid." -Jim White, local radio personality |
yes, this wont work. thanks for the advice. |
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MuahMan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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"jerryeveretts" <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1183821707.141820.199540@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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On Jul 7, 10:43 am, Elijah Baley <l...@foundation.org> wrote:
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In article <1183784221.824816.199...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> > wrote:
> > On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> > > said:
> > > If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on > > > DVD?
> > Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and > > you
> > have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive.
> > --
> > JR
> Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel
Ah, people, you are forgetting something basic here. The retail Tiger DVD will NOT boot on an Intel based Mac. There is NO Tiger install DVD for Intel based Macs other than the the restore disks that come with each new machine and those will only install on the machine model they were shipped with.
Assuming for the moment we are dealing with a LEGAL copy of the Tiger install DVD Apple has an exchange program available to trade the DVD in for multiple CDs so people without a DVD drive can install Tiger. But that's only for PPC machines. The first retail installer for Intel machines will be for Leopard.
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"Momma always said, "Stupid is as stupid does."" -Forest Gump
"You can't fix stupid." -Jim White, local radio personality |
yes, this wont work. thanks for the advice. |
Wow, Apple makes it inredibly hard to install their OS. It's much easier and more straight forward on Windows. |
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John Slade
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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"jerryeveretts" <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1183775756.778139.321330@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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| If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? |
Dude, you have to put a DVD drive in your computer. All you have to do is buy one, hell you can get a burner for around $40 and a reader only for about $20. Oh wait, I forgot, you have a Mac, which Mac do you have?
John |
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John C. Randolph
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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On 2007-07-06 22:56:56 -0700, ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> said:
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In article <1183784221.824816.199510@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, jerryeveretts <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> wrote:
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On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> said:
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| If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? |
Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive.
-- JR |
Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel |
I believe when you put a machine in FW target disk mode, you actually get access to all of its drives. Try putting the Tiger DVD in the machine you're not installing on, and then rebooting *it* in FW target disk mode, hooked up to the machine you want to install on. You should see both the other machine's internal hard drive *and* the Tiger DVD, and then be able to select the Tiger DVD as your boot volume. If you do things this way, it shouldn't matter that the other machine is the wrong processor architecture, since you're basically just using it as an external DVD drive.
I haven't actually tried this, though. |
That will work for machines made in the last two or three years, I believe. I'm not sure exactly when the firmware got that feature.
-jcr |
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TheLetterK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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jerryeveretts wrote:
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| If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? |
It's a shame that Apple doesn't support network installs without an OS X Server installation. |
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TheLetterK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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jerryeveretts wrote:
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On Jul 7, 10:43 am, Elijah Baley <l...@foundation.org> wrote:
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In article <1183784221.824816.199...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> wrote:
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On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> said:
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| If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on DVD? |
Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and you have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive. --
JR |
Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel |
Ah, people, you are forgetting something basic here. The retail Tiger DVD will NOT boot on an Intel based Mac. There is NO Tiger install DVD for Intel based Macs other than the the restore disks that come with each new machine and those will only install on the machine model they were shipped with.
Assuming for the moment we are dealing with a LEGAL copy of the Tiger install DVD Apple has an exchange program available to trade the DVD in for multiple CDs so people without a DVD drive can install Tiger. But that's only for PPC machines. The first retail installer for Intel machines will be for Leopard.
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"Momma always said, "Stupid is as stupid does."" -Forest Gump
"You can't fix stupid." -Jim White, local radio personality |
yes, this wont work. thanks for the advice. |
If you need something until Leopard is released, consider using Ubuntu for PPC.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
Official support has been dropped, but the community is still maintaining it. Debian is also an alternative. |
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Elijah Baley
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: What can you install Tiger from? |
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In article <V9CdnR5j_vfJXxLbnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com>, "MuahMan" <MuahMan@yahue.com> wrote:
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"jerryeveretts" <ifreeley@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1183821707.141820.199540@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 7, 10:43 am, Elijah Baley <l...@foundation.org> wrote: >> In article <1183784221.824816.199...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, >>
>> jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Jul 7, 12:19 am, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com> >> > wrote:
>> > > On 2007-07-06 21:35:56 -0500, jerryeveretts <ifree...@gmail.com> >> > > said:
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>> > > > If you don't have a DVD drive in the computer? But Have Tiger on >> > > > DVD?
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>> > > Use an external DVD drive, Or if your Mac has a Firewire port and >> > > you
>> > > have a Firewire cable, use another Mac with a DVD drive. >>
>> > > --
>> > > JR
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>> > Doh.. one is PPC and the other is Intel >>
>> Ah, people, you are forgetting something basic here. The retail Tiger >> DVD will NOT boot on an Intel based Mac. There is NO Tiger install DVD >> for Intel based Macs other than the the restore disks that come with >> each new machine and those will only install on the machine model they >> were shipped with.
>>
>> Assuming for the moment we are dealing with a LEGAL copy of the Tiger >> install DVD Apple has an exchange program available to trade the DVD in >> for multiple CDs so people without a DVD drive can install Tiger. But >> that's only for PPC machines. The first retail installer for Intel >> machines will be for Leopard.
>>
>> --
>> "Momma always said, "Stupid is as stupid does."" -Forest Gump >>
>> "You can't fix stupid." -Jim White, local radio personality >
> yes, this wont work. thanks for the advice. >
Wow, Apple makes it inredibly hard to install their OS. It's much easier and more straight forward on Windows. |
Yeah, Windows is so backwards it can't support two different CPU architectures at the same time. |
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