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Robert Demby
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 Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: OS 9 Printing Problem |
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Hi All, Using a Iogear print server I am able to print to my Brother HL-1440 laser printer from my home network( A TiBook, a G4, and a Dell laptop ) wired and wirelessly. I can even print from my daughters iMac from across town. My problem is my brothers G3 using 9.2.2. It just prints garbage. It's on the same local network, has the drivers and sees the print server. I've tried Appletalk via the chooser,and LPR using desktop printer utility to no avail. What else do I need?
TIA
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J.J. O'Shea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: OS 9 Printing Problem |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:15:53 -0400, Robert Demby wrote (in article <fKzhi.94$ah3.52@newsfe12.lga>):
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| Hi All, Using a Iogear print server I am able to print to my Brother HL-1440 laser printer from my home network( A TiBook, a G4, and a Dell laptop ) wired and wirelessly. I can even print from my daughters iMac from across town. My problem is my brothers G3 using 9.2.2. It just prints garbage. It's on the same local network, has the drivers and sees the print server. I've tried Appletalk via the chooser,and LPR using desktop printer utility to no avail. What else do I need? |
Plug the printer directly to the Mac by USB. If it prints (and I think it will) the answer is that Brother supports direct connect printing only, not network printing, with OS 9. |
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Robert
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: OS 9 Printing Problem |
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Robert Demby wrote:
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Hi All, Using a Iogear print server I am able to print to my Brother HL-1440 laser printer from my home network( A TiBook, a G4, and a Dell laptop ) wired and wirelessly. I can even print from my daughters iMac from across town. My problem is my brothers G3 using 9.2.2. It just prints garbage. It's on the same local network, has the drivers and sees the print server. I've tried Appletalk via the chooser,and LPR using desktop printer utility to no avail. What else do I need?
TIA
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I guess I should have said I'm on a OS X network. I was able to turn a HL-1440 USB printer into a Ethernet and Wireless printer using CUPS and GimpPrint.
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems there should be a way to print from OS 9 to this printer as USB drivers do exist.
Any ideas?
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J.J. O'Shea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: OS 9 Printing Problem |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:11:07 -0400, Robert wrote (in article <138j1gd7m714g42@corp.supernews.com>):
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Robert Demby wrote:
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Hi All, Using a Iogear print server I am able to print to my Brother HL-1440 laser printer from my home network( A TiBook, a G4, and a Dell laptop ) wired and wirelessly. I can even print from my daughters iMac from across town. My problem is my brothers G3 using 9.2.2. It just prints garbage. It's on the same local network, has the drivers and sees the print server. I've tried Appletalk via the chooser,and LPR using desktop printer utility to no avail. What else do I need?
TIA
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I guess I should have said I'm on a OS X network. I was able to turn a HL-1440 USB printer into a Ethernet and Wireless printer using CUPS and GimpPrint.
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems there should be a way to print from OS 9 to this printer as USB drivers do exist. |
Many printers, in particular almost all inkjet and low-end laser printers from Epson and HP, shipped with OS 9 drivers which worked only with USB. Some such printers ship with OS X drivers which work only with USB. There are 3rd-party drivers, including the GutenPrint drivers, which allow many of those printers to print over the network. However, the OS 9 drivers _still_ don't work over the network, and the OS X drivers which ship with the printers still don't work over the network. Example: I own several HP inkjets. In no case did they ship with a driver which worked over the network. Period. In all cases, I was able to get Gimp/GutenPrint or HPIJS or both drivers which _would_ work over the network--for OS X. In _one_ case, I was able to use a GutenPrint driver under Classic with a USB connection, via the LaserWriter 8 workaround. In _zero_ cases I was able to use a GutenPrint driver under Classic over the network. And, yes, I was able to print to that printer (using the GutenPrint driver) over the network from OS X _and_ Windows and even Linux machines. The HP drivers which shipped with the machine were completely useless for any computer not directly connected by USB. I suspect that you will encounter similar problems, only worse, as you're running directly in OS 9 and therefore the Classic printer workaround of printing using LaserWriter 8 will not be available to you, and even if it was, the GutenPrint drivers will not be installed as they are OS X drivers.
Yeah. It seems that Brother didn't ship OS 9 network drivers with that printer. Given the age of the last set of OS 9 drivers, I suspect that Brother will _never_ ship OS 9 network drivers. Your choices are simple:
1 find a printer which shipped with OS 9 network drivers, and use that. All such printers are going to be fairly old. Possible printers include HP LJ 4s and LJ 5s, particularly the LJ4MP and LJ5MP models. Good luck finding one that's both for sale and that works; people who own those machines don't want to give them up while there's any life in them at all.
2 install OS X 10.4 on the G3. Classic in 10.4 allows the LaserWriter 8 workaround. It is _possible_ that the GutenPrint drivers will work using the LaserWriter 8 workaround under Classic; it is a near certainty that those drivers will allow network connections under OS X. It is possible that Brother's OS X drivers allow network connections. I don't know, I don't have that model Brother. I'd contact Brother tech support and ask them before installing OS X.
3 connect a printer, that one or a different one, directly to the G3.
4 install PDFWriter or some other OS 9 method of generating PDFs onto the G3, print to PDFs and copy the PDFs over the network to an OS X machine, which then prints to paper.
5 advise your brother that his G3 is not going to print to that printer.
Pick one. |
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