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samwalker7
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 Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: Operating system failure |
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I recently switched from the Mac OS 10.3X, which was working, to the OS 9.5 (start-up disc, I guess?) and now nothing works. It boots to an icon looking like a 3.5 floopy disc, with a question mark blinking inside it. I can hear a clicking sound and after a few minutes, the computer shuts down. I have tried all the shortcuts that I can find and still nothing as far as getting it to complete the boot. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks in advance! Sam
iBook, M6497, made in 2001. color is white. I believe this is a G3? I am not that familiar with ibooks and I don't have any discs that originally came with the unit. |
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nospam
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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In article <85eb9b084e24a@uwe>, samwalker7 <u44337@uwe> wrote:
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I recently switched from the Mac OS 10.3X, which was working, to the OS 9.5
there was no 9.5.
(start-up disc, I guess?) and now nothing works. It boots to an icon looking like a 3.5 floopy disc, with a question mark blinking inside it. |
that means it can't find a bootable system on either the hard drive or the optical drive (or any attached hard drives but you didn't mention additional drives).
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I can hear a
clicking sound and after a few minutes, the computer shuts down. I have tried all the shortcuts that I can find and still nothing as far as getting it to complete the boot. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks in advance! |
that sounds like the computer works, but whatever system disc you have in there is not compatible with it. for instance, it's possible that the disc you have was bundled with a different model mac. or, the optical drive is defective.
what exactly does it say on the disc?
also, why did you switch? especially since you say you don't have any discs that came with it.
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Sam
iBook, M6497, made in 2001. color is white. I believe this is a G3? I am not that familiar with ibooks and I don't have any discs that originally came with the unit. |
google shows that it's an ibook 600mz g3. |
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samwalker7
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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I guess "disc" was a bad choice of wording on my part. I apoligize. This thing has 2 operating systems on it....a 10.3.4 and a OS 9. I was using the OS 10.3.4 with no problems. I switched over to the OS 9 from the OS 10.3.4. Apparently the OS 9 isn't working and I haven't been able to switch back to the good one.
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| I recently switched from the Mac OS 10.3X, which was working, to the OS 9.5 |
there was no 9.5.
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| (start-up disc, I guess?) and now nothing works. It boots to an icon looking like a 3.5 floopy disc, with a question mark blinking inside it. |
that means it can't find a bootable system on either the hard drive or the optical drive (or any attached hard drives but you didn't mention additional drives).
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I can hear a
clicking sound and after a few minutes, the computer shuts down. I have tried all the shortcuts that I can find and still nothing as far as getting it to complete the boot. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks in advance! |
that sounds like the computer works, but whatever system disc you have in there is not compatible with it. for instance, it's possible that the disc you have was bundled with a different model mac. or, the optical drive is defective.
what exactly does it say on the disc?
also, why did you switch? especially since you say you don't have any discs that came with it.
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Sam
iBook, M6497, made in 2001. color is white. I believe this is a G3? I am not that familiar with ibooks and I don't have any discs that originally came with the unit. |
google shows that it's an ibook 600mz g3. |
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nospam
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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In article <85ee38734fefe@uwe>, samwalker7 <u44337@uwe> wrote:
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| I guess "disc" was a bad choice of wording on my part. I apoligize. This thing has 2 operating systems on it....a 10.3.4 and a OS 9. I was using the OS 10.3.4 with no problems. I switched over to the OS 9 from the OS 10.3.4. Apparently the OS 9 isn't working and I haven't been able to switch back to the good one. |
if 10.3.4 and os9 are on separate disk partitions, you can hold down the option key to bring up a selector. then pick osx, and once it boots, be sure to set it to always boot osx via the startup disk system preference panel.
if both systems are on the same partition, try holding down the x key while booting. that should force it to boot osx that one time. |
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samwalker7 via MacKB.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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I have done this. When I hold the option key, a sceen comes up for a choice of operating systems, however, it will not go any futher.
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| I guess "disc" was a bad choice of wording on my part. I apoligize. This thing has 2 operating systems on it....a 10.3.4 and a OS 9. I was using the OS 10.3.4 with no problems. I switched over to the OS 9 from the OS 10.3.4. Apparently the OS 9 isn't working and I haven't been able to switch back to the good one. |
if 10.3.4 and os9 are on separate disk partitions, you can hold down the option key to bring up a selector. then pick osx, and once it boots, be sure to set it to always boot osx via the startup disk system preference panel.
if both systems are on the same partition, try holding down the x key while booting. that should force it to boot osx that one time. |
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nospam
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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In article <85ef9a24b629a@uwe>, samwalker7 via MacKB.com <u44337@uwe> wrote:
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| I have done this. When I hold the option key, a sceen comes up for a choice of operating systems, however, it will not go any futher. |
did you pick the osx icon, then click the arrow (or hit return)? |
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samwalker7 via MacKB.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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I have picked the icon, clicked on it, and it does nothing. If I hit enter, it goes to another screen with an icon that looks like a 3.5 floppy disk. Inside this icon is a blinking question mark. It stays there for several mintues and then the computer shuts off.
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| I have done this. When I hold the option key, a sceen comes up for a choice of operating systems, however, it will not go any futher. |
did you pick the osx icon, then click the arrow (or hit return)? |
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nospam
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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In article <85f023ffb4926@uwe>, samwalker7 via MacKB.com <u44337@uwe> wrote:
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| I have picked the icon, clicked on it, and it does nothing. If I hit enter, it goes to another screen with an icon that looks like a 3.5 floppy disk. Inside this icon is a blinking question mark. It stays there for several mintues and then the computer shuts off. |
so it's recognizing that the system is bootable (when it puts up the icons) but when it tries to boot it fails, so it really isn't bootable after all. it sounds like it's corrupted somehow.
you'll need to boot off a system disc to see what exactly is going on, and possibly reinstalling the system. it's also could be that there's disk corruption which could be fixed, either with apple's disk utility, or alsoft's diskwarrior. |
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samwalker7 via MacKB.com
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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Got any idea where I could obtain a system disk for this ibook?
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| I have picked the icon, clicked on it, and it does nothing. If I hit enter, it goes to another screen with an icon that looks like a 3.5 floppy disk. Inside this icon is a blinking question mark. It stays there for several mintues and then the computer shuts off. |
so it's recognizing that the system is bootable (when it puts up the icons) but when it tries to boot it fails, so it really isn't bootable after all. it sounds like it's corrupted somehow.
you'll need to boot off a system disc to see what exactly is going on, and possibly reinstalling the system. it's also could be that there's disk corruption which could be fixed, either with apple's disk utility, or alsoft's diskwarrior. |
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nospam
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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In article <85f52e75eac90@uwe>, samwalker7 via MacKB.com <u44337@uwe> wrote:
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| Got any idea where I could obtain a system disk for this ibook? |
ebay.
be *sure* whatever you get is a full retail copy and not a machine specific copy that was bundled (unless of course, it was bundled with the exact ibook you have). otherwise, it won't work.
that ibook can boot os 9 and osx 10.1 and later. you have 10.3 on there now which should be fairly cheap. |
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samwalker7 via MacKB.com
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Operating system failure |
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Fred Moore wrote:
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After reading your exchanges with nospam I think you have stumbled into one of the classic 'dual-boot' traps. I have seen this many times and experienced it myself with my TiBook 550. Despite what Apple advertised, there is no better way to corrupt your operating system, both the 10 as well as the 9 versions, than to switch boot systems. Part of the problem is that 9's Desktop file routines don't deal at all well with the plethora of OS 10 files (literally 10 times as many). Eventually, something in both systems (don't know exactly what) gets corrupted and the only solution is to re-install from the original disks or your backup (you do have one, right?  ). Of course, it could be something else, but I'd give 90% odds that this is the problem.
If you're going to buy install disks off eBay, the full versions (will boot any Mac which supports the OS version) are black and the hardware-specific ones are gray.
One more thing, I don't mean to be picky, but the custom on Usenet is to bottom post, not top post. You'll get more help and be taken more seriously if you bottom post.
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Thanks for the tip. I believe you're right about the dual-boot trap because 10.3.4 was working fine while I was on it but as soon as I switched to 9, it crashed. I don't have an original disk or any start-up disks. This ibook was brought to me by my daughter from Michigan where it was used in the school system. They were given the computer but no disks. This is my first experiene with an ibook. I hear a clicking sound which, in normal computers, usually means a bad hard drive. I don't know if that's the case with this one. If I need a hard drive and operating system, is it really worth it? Thanks in advance!
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